User talk:JWilz12345

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Would File:Independence Monument (27506800337).jpg also fail COM:FOP Turkmenistan (it's the Independence Monument, Ashgabat) or does it avoid it somehow? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:54, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång Automatically fails. It is very recent, dates to 2001. Even if the sculptor is unknown, it will still take 50 years for it to fall in public domain. But since there is no country-specific FOP, the undeletion will be at the mercy of U.S. copyright duration too, not just Turkmen terms. The need to take U.S. law into account can be safely ignored if there is commercial FOP in Turkmenistan in the first place, so that {{Not-free-US-FOP}} can also be used as a defense from U.S. law. But as there is no FOP, {{Not-free-US-FOP}} cannot be used. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 12:33, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Bummer, isn't it. Fwiw, it can "live" as fair use on en-WP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:42, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of the picture of a public building on Turkmenistan

Sir, I am surprized at you request as this picture falls into the provisions made by Turkmen laws: Only allowed for incidental, non-commercial use. Under Law No. 257-IV of January 10, 2012, permitted use includes: Reproduction, broadcasting or communication to the public by cable of works of architecture, photography or fine art permanently located in a place open to public access. Chaanara (talk) 13:00, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

@Chaanara: perhaps you're talking about File:Université d'ashgabat (Tukménistan). Coupoles en émaux de Briare.JPG. I don't see it is incidental; it is clear the architecture is the main subject. Also, COM:Licensing explicitly states that only content that is not subject to non-commercial restrictions is permitted on Commons. The allowed Creative Commons licenses here are commercial. Commons cannot accept photos of modern artwork and architecture from Turkmenistan because the non-commercial restriction does not permit the use of commercial licensing. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 13:27, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Sir,

Clearly you have a much superior knowledge of "Wikilegalese" as compared to me, especially considering you are a "license reviewer". However, in plain terms I can repeat: this is a global view of a public building of which there is no commercial use cf. Turkmen laws.

Therefore, unless you would prove you are a "supreme court judge" I don't consider your opinion superior to mine as to what is incidental and what is not.

Incidentally, I also wish you would make more positive contributions.

RGDS Chaanara (talk) 13:43, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

@Chaanara: kindly read COM:Licensing#Acceptable licenses. The allowed licenses used in all image files here allow unrestricted commercial reuses. Commons does not accept non-commercial licenses. Turkmen law disallows commercial uses of works in public still under copyright ownership of architects and sculptors. Simply put, Turkmen FOP is not OK. Didn't you notice the  Not OK label there? It is very clear. And architecture is still architecture: you cannot license your image without architect's permission as long as the Turkmen law disallows commercial purposes. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 13:47, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Incidental means the copyrighted building or artwork must not be the main subject. In other words, COM:De minimis. That may seem too restrictive since a certain photo becomes just a cityscape or road scene, but there is nothing we can do. As long as Turkmen FOP does not conform to Internet era, then no modern architecture and public art from that country is welcome here. See also past deletions at Category:Turkmenistani FOP cases/deleted. If Ashgabat finally changes their heart to allow free uses, then all deleted photos can be undeleted or restored. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 13:51, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

FOP Taiwan

Sorry to disturb you. WMTW consulted TIPO on FOP Taiwan again and got reply recently. The reply is available to the public today.

TIPO has reconfirmed his view in Email 1111122 and 1111230 in TIPO's No.11260001910 reply to WMTW's letter No.1120000003. See Reply No.11260001910.

And, TIPO thinks extra restriction (one cannot sell it) should be added to photos uploaded to Commons under CC-BY-SA license. I'm afraid that extra restriction is not allowed as per COM:License, but I will wait for WMTW's opinion on it. Teetrition (talk) 10:02, 3 March 2023 (UTC)