User talk:Cryptic-waveform
Category:Photographs by Kobi Gideon[edit]
Hello Cryptic-waveform,
Can you please explain this -- Geagea (talk) 11:15, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Geagea: Sure thing. DEFAULTSORT on this page is unwanted as there is already a sortkey on Category:Photographs by photographer from Israel and it's better for the sortkey to be unspecified on Category:Kobi Gideon. As for hiding the category, it's already the case for 32% of the "Photographs by" categories ([1], [2]) so not a new invention. I personally prefer making these categories hidden. I don't consider a file that has only a "Photographs by" category as categorized as it's missing categories about the content of the image. Therefore if the "Photographs by" category is hidden, bots can mark more files as uncategorized. I realize that this is more of a preference than a rule so if you would rather leave the categorize not hidden, it's fine by me. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 14:14, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- a. DEFAULTSORT - disagree with you. the sort of Category:Photographs by photographer from Israel should be using DEFAULTSORT.
- b. hiding the category - disagree. It's not coverd by any policy in Commons. Every can have any own preference but her we need collaboration with other users. Kobi Gideon is a photographers of the Government Press Office of Israel. it's not photographer from flickr. There is no need to hide the category. Anyway in Commons we need a consensus for that. -- Geagea (talk) 18:03, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- Regarding DEFAULTSORT, it's already correctly sorted because there is a sortkey specified for Category:Photographs by photographer from Israel. But if you prefer DEFAULTSORT, that's fine too. What I was trying to say is that the page has 2 competing sortkeys. I applied diff to correct this. As for hidden or not, I don't feel strongly. I also don't make a difference between photographers, they're all contributing to the common knowledge whether they're professionals or amateurs. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 18:16, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- Well, hidden categories are for maintenance. If I'm uploading my own photographs, that can be hidden. works by photographers, painters etc. should not be hidden.
- For the defaultsort. It's meant to the future new categories. They will be automatically categorised. -- Geagea (talk) 21:36, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- Regarding DEFAULTSORT, it's already correctly sorted because there is a sortkey specified for Category:Photographs by photographer from Israel. But if you prefer DEFAULTSORT, that's fine too. What I was trying to say is that the page has 2 competing sortkeys. I applied diff to correct this. As for hidden or not, I don't feel strongly. I also don't make a difference between photographers, they're all contributing to the common knowledge whether they're professionals or amateurs. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 18:16, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
Doublons[edit]
Salut ! Je viens de voir que ton bot parvient à identifier des doublons qui ne sont pas identiques au niveau binaire:
Comment tu fais ça ? Le mien traite déjà les doublons exacts à partir de Special:ListDuplicatedFiles et je travaille à en identifier d'avantage en calculant des perceptual hashes, d'où ma curiosité. vip (talk) 17:22, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Don-vip: Haha, c'est parce que mon bot est bien moins intelligent que le tien :) Je me limite à un cas très restreint, les images du project DOCUMERICA uploadé par Artix Kreiger. Je compare les titres et si je ne trouve qu'un unique candidat uploadé par NARA, je marque l'image comme doublon. Je surveille mon bot et résout les cas non-évidents à la main. Évidemment cette méthode a le désavantage de ne pas comparer le contenu même des images, mais dans ce cas précis c'est suffisant. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 17:27, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Cryptic-waveform ok merci ! Bien joué ^^ ça fait plaisir de voir d'autre contributeurs (francophones en plus !) participer à la chasse aux doublons :) vip (talk) 17:33, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
duplicates[edit]
Hi Cryptic-waveform, for quite some of your x000 duplicates to process, the deletion/process-direction is from somewhat-higher-resolution to somewhat-lower-resolution image, such as with File:Looking Into the Downtown Core Area of Portland, From the West Hills, the 43-Story First National Bank Building Shows Lights on Only a Few Floors at 8 P.M. During the State's Energy Crisis in the Fall of 1973 11-1973 (4272470632).jpg. Is this intentional or should I revert the direction in such cases? --Túrelio (talk) 10:42, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
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- @Túrelio: Thanks for letting me know! I assumed that in every case we'd want to keep the record from NARA rather than the one from Flickr. I didn't take into account that the image from Flickr might have a higher resolution. IMO it would be preferential to keep the record from NARA with the higher resolution image. Is this something that can be easily achieved with the deduplication tool? Or should I look into uploading the higher-resolution image to the NARA record? Or am I plain wrong and it doesn't matter if we don't keep the NARA record as it's also attached to the TIF images? Cryptic-waveform (talk) 14:08, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- When working with the duplicate-script, the size (pix and kB) are shown. A possibility to at least keep a link to the higher-res Flickr-version would be to paste the Flickr-link into the NARA-version description-template at | Other versions =. However, in the NARA-template that field is usually already filled with a gallery. Another place might be below the last }} of the description-template. Of course, all that significantly increases the amount of manual work. --Túrelio (talk) 16:30, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- How about making such modifications to the NARA jpg pages: diff? If I apply this change to all pages, can you then deduplicate while keeping the NARA page and the higher-resolution photograph? Cryptic-waveform (talk) 16:38, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- When working with the duplicate-script, the size (pix and kB) are shown. A possibility to at least keep a link to the higher-res Flickr-version would be to paste the Flickr-link into the NARA-version description-template at | Other versions =. However, in the NARA-template that field is usually already filled with a gallery. Another place might be below the last }} of the description-template. Of course, all that significantly increases the amount of manual work. --Túrelio (talk) 16:30, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Folklore 2023 has started, Join us![edit]
Hello Cryptic-waveform,
Greetings from Wiki Loves Folklore International Team!
Wiki Loves Folklore is an international photography contest hosted on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from around the world, such as folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, folk activities, folk games, folk cuisine, folk wear, folktales, folk games, folk religion, mythology, and many more.
The campaign invites participants to document photographs, videos, and audios linked to folk culture and fit within the contest's theme. Through this campaign, you may become a part of a community dedicated to preserving our intangible culture, which has been brought and passed down for thousands of years.
How to Contribute?
The dates for the submission in the photography contest on Wikimedia Commons are from 1 February to 31 March 2023. Probably you are wondering how you can take part. It’s simple: grab a camera, record an image, video or audio under the folklore theme and start uploading ! To learn more about the rules, check out our Project page on Wikimedia Common. Here are the exciting prizes which you can win internationally.
International Prizes
- 1st prize: 500 USD
- 2nd prize: 400 USD
- 3rd prize: 300 USD
- Top 10 consolation prizes: 40 USD Each
- Best Video prize and best Audio prize: 150 USD & 150 USD
- Top uploader prize for images: First Prize: 100 USD, Second prize: 50 USD
- Wiki Loves Folklore Postcards to top 100 Uploaders
- Certificates and postcards to Local Organizers.
(Disclaimer : The above prizes will only be disbursed in form of gift card or voucher format only)
You can win both International prizes and your local Prizes simultaneously !
If you are interested in participating in the photography campaign, start photographing and collecting media of your local culture and get ready for the photo campaign happening on Wikimedia Commons. For more information about rules and prizes of the contest, refer here. For any questions, email us or join our telegram group
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Wiki Loves Folklore International Team.
Commons:Bots/Work requests[edit]
Hi,
I've left you a message at Commons:Bots/Work requests. – Ammarpad (talk) 08:18, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. I'm not sure what response you're looking for. I marked the section as resolved as I responded to the user. You then removed my edit. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 13:18, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- It was re-opened, because the issue is not resolved. I am not sure what else you want in that case. What is needed is for you to explain how you got approval to perform the task per Commons:Bots, which says such approval is required. – Ammarpad (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- My bot is already approved to make semi-automated categorization changes. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 14:25, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- OK, please link to the approval. The the approval I can see is for "Categorizing images of the Pentagon.", which is clearly not the case here. – Ammarpad (talk) 14:45, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- You're nitpicking. I do a lot of categorization work and can't possibly file a request for every type of categorization I do. If you'd like, please file a formal complaint at COM:AN. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 14:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- How asking for an approval you claim to have is nitpicking?. You could have given the link with less words than you use to double-down now. I don't care whether you can file request or you can't, but you're not above the Commons' policies right? And moreover, basic ettiquete should tell you you shouldn't have interrrupted ongoing discussion as you did on that page. But you just came and pasted {{resolved}} with an air of finality and you're even surprised that I removed it. – Ammarpad (talk) 15:11, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry I jumped in on the request that you were already handling. Indeed this was poor judgement from my end. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 15:32, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- How asking for an approval you claim to have is nitpicking?. You could have given the link with less words than you use to double-down now. I don't care whether you can file request or you can't, but you're not above the Commons' policies right? And moreover, basic ettiquete should tell you you shouldn't have interrrupted ongoing discussion as you did on that page. But you just came and pasted {{resolved}} with an air of finality and you're even surprised that I removed it. – Ammarpad (talk) 15:11, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- You're nitpicking. I do a lot of categorization work and can't possibly file a request for every type of categorization I do. If you'd like, please file a formal complaint at COM:AN. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 14:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- OK, please link to the approval. The the approval I can see is for "Categorizing images of the Pentagon.", which is clearly not the case here. – Ammarpad (talk) 14:45, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- My bot is already approved to make semi-automated categorization changes. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 14:25, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
- It was re-opened, because the issue is not resolved. I am not sure what else you want in that case. What is needed is for you to explain how you got approval to perform the task per Commons:Bots, which says such approval is required. – Ammarpad (talk) 14:22, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
"License Review"[edit]
Your bot is not working properly 1. Hanooz 15:37, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. Indeed I need to make a small fix to account for video files. I'll clean up files with duplicate
{{License review}}tags. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 15:39, 7 March 2023 (UTC)- I've removed the duplicate tags, fixed my script and restarted the bot. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 15:48, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. Hanooz 15:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- I've removed the duplicate tags, fixed my script and restarted the bot. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 15:48, 7 March 2023 (UTC)