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Request to merge some units in COM:GNL[edit]

Units in Commons:Use of gender neutral language#Examples should be combined into one unit.

An example says:

"If you want to use a photographer’s picture, please ask their permission first."

Fine. The "singular they" is sometimes controversial, but is now generally accepted.

Singular they only exists in English, and gender neutral pronoun may not exist in some languages. That makes translating impossible. Though gender neutral pronoun exists in target language, exact (word-by-word) translation of example sentences may not exist.

Another examples say:

"If you want to use a photographer’s picture, please ask her permission first."

Avoid. This makes an unwarranted assumption that the photographer is identifiable as female.

"If you want to use a photographer’s picture, please ask his permission first."

Avoid. This makes an unwarranted assumption that the photographer is identifiable as male.

"If you want to use a photographer’s picture, please ask his or her permission first."

Avoid. This makes an unwarranted binary assumption that the photographer identifies as either male or female. This is considered to be non-gender neutral and can appear unwelcoming to readers who identify as neither.

Pronouns in some (or most?) languages (Cantonese 佢, Georgian ის, Thai เขา, Turkish o, etc.) don't distinguish gender. Translating these examples is impossible.

Implementations of this policy in different languages should be considered case by case instead of copying them in English blindly. --沈澄心 ✉ 05:07, 21 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@沈澄心, This is an interesting case. If I were to translate any of these sentences into Urdu, no matter if it is his/her/they whatever, the Urdu translation would be something similar. His/her generally would be referred to as "ٗاس کی" (singular), and they to "ان کی" (both singular and plural), but I'd generally use the latter for all the three cases, because it is way more respectful and friendly. Similarly, translating please ask his or her permission first, would be very much difficult, because it would be the same thing on the both sides of "or". ─ The Aafī (^talk) 18:18, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Lua errors in translation pages[edit]

Can someone purge Commons:Threshold of originality/id and Commons:Threshold of originality/pt-br pages which have Lua errors ("Lua error: too many expensive function calls.") ? Many times such errors are due to cache issues. Jarekt (talk) 16:10, 8 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Jarekt: I have purged them, but it has not helped. --Ameisenigel (talk) 14:47, 28 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Seems like they are gone now --Ameisenigel (talk) 19:08, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Ameisenigel (talk) 19:08, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Asking for advice![edit]

There is a template {{Cultural Heritage Russia}} with the following text in its sub-template {{Cultural Heritage Russia/layout}} which I don't know how technically and correctly make translatable or just translate in Russian. Any practical advice would be appreciated!

{{{text4|This template and pages using it are maintained by the [[Commons:Monuments database in Russia#Contacts|Russian WLM team]]. Please read the [[Commons:Monuments database in Russia|guidelines]] before making any changes that can affect the monuments database!}}}

— Pacha Tchernof (talk) 22:21, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Pacha Tchernof, do you still need help with this? ─ The Aafī (^talk) 18:28, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A helpful tip is that you consider creating a sub-template, Template:Cultural Heritage Russia/i18n and get it marked for translation. It would be something like Template:KARI-source/i18n. It is almost identical to your case. Have a look at: Template:KARI-source and Template:KARI-source/layout as well. Best, ─ The Aafī (^talk) 18:35, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Nu startar Wiki Loves Monuments 2022![edit]

Vinnarbilden i Wiki Loves Monuments 2021!

Hej!

(For information in English, see Wiki Loves Monuments 2022 in Sweden or other participating countries.)

Du får det här meddelandet då du tidigare har deltagit i de svenska deltävlingarna av Wiki Loves Monuments eller Wiki Loves Earth!

Den 1 september inleds 2022 års svenska deltävling av Wiki Loves Monuments, där det skulle vara väldigt roligt om du ville vara med och delta! Målet med Wiki Loves Monuments är att fotografera svenska kulturarvsmonument. De kategorier som ingår är byggnadsminnen, fornminnen, kulturmärkta fartyg och fritidsbåtar och arbetslivsmuseer – och du är välkommen att bidra med bilder hela september.

Välkommen till tävlingen, och lycka till! /Axel Pettersson (WMSE) (talk) 10:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Ameisenigel (talk) 19:08, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Вікі любить пам'ятки 2022 в Україні / Wiki Loves Monuments 2022 in Ukraine[edit]

Привіт!

Цього року українська частина міжнародного фотоконкурсу «Вікі любить пам'ятки» пройде з 1 по 31 жовтня — через російське вторгнення в Україну також довелося змінити умови: тільки світлини зроблені до 23 лютого 2022 року включно будуть прийматися в основній частині конкурсу.

В Україні цей конкурс пройде вже водинадцяте. На конкурс можна подавати власні фото пам'яток історико-культурної спадщини України — і змагатися за призи. Більше можна прочитати за посиланням.

Радимо ознайомитися із детальними правилами, а також із відповідями на часті питання. Як і того року — у номінації «За найбільшу кількість сфотографованих пам’яток» можна отримати 21 бал за фотографії об'єктів, якщо світлин цієї пам'ятки раніше не було завантажено.

Нагадаємо, що всі фотографії автоматично беруть участь у номінації «За найбільшу кількість сфотографованих пам’яток»; однак для того, щоб фото позмагалося у номінації «Найкраще фото», потрібно підтвердити це при завантаженні.

Цього року знову пройде спецномінація «Відео» — для участі робіт у цій спецномінації не потрібно обирати нічого у Завантажувачі — роботи зараховуватимуться автоматично з відповідних списків.

Усі номінації та спецномінації конкурсу описані тут.

Приєднуйтеся!

Зі списками пам'яток можна ознайомитися тут. Більше інформації про конкурс дивіться за посиланням. Щоб отримувати інформацію про новинки у конкурсі — підпишіться на наші блог та сторінку у фейсбук.

Важливо! Цього року ми проводимо конкурс вже за чинним адміністративно-територіальним устроєм.

Якщо у Вас є запитання, можете звертатися wlmwikimedia.org.ua чи у фейсбук – З повагою, Оргкомітет «Вікі любить пам'ятки». 20:28, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Ви отримали це повідомлення, оскільки Ви брали участь в одному із фотоконкурсів «Вікімедіа Україна» чи допомагали (наприклад, редагували файли з цих конкурсів).

If you do not speak Ukrainian, but you are interested in a contest, you can check out our page in English here.

This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Ameisenigel (talk) 19:09, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:FuzzyBot[edit]

While translating it into Urdu, I found there is a little error, however, I cannot edit it. The current marking [//commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Translators'_noticeboard&action=edit&section=new post at the translators' noticeboard] happens to bring a result in translation like this اس کے بجائے فیبریکیٹر یا post ترجمہ نوٹس بورڈ پر مسئلہ رپورٹ کریں. It so happens because there is no _ in "new post" and it should be written as "new_post". However, there comes another issue then. As it is now, clicking on the "post at the translators' noticeboard" link takes one to this noticeboard via the CD tool (new topic that we find at the top of this page) but if it is changed to "new_post" in the link itself, the result is that the link opens up this page in the "edit-source" extension with just the header stuff available. The word "post" should not happen to be contained in translations. @Ameisenigel, what do you think? ─ The Aafī (^talk) 18:00, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ِ</span> should be removed from T10 as well. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 18:03, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You are right. Maybe @Minorax: can help here, since the page is protected. Could you move the closing tvar tag in T:2 from behind "post" to behind "new"? And maybe also remove the span tag in T:10? --Ameisenigel (talk) 19:05, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]